Curse

Seban Anu · Apr 26, 2006, 03:17 AM // 03:17

Hm, I'll admit I didn't read through all of this thread, just the first handful of pages. And from the looks of it the conversation is shifting a little bit, so pardon me...

But personally I am happy the assasins look different. I know people, some people in my family for that matter, who are perfectly healthy and are built like that. I was impressed with the assasins when I first saw them, because unlike the ritualists (who seem to have ele builds) they have a completely different body type; with perhaps the exception of male necromancers. They run different, stand different, and noteably look different. I think its great. Especially in women. Look around you, all women arent hippy, all women dont have large chests. Some perfectly *healthy* and beautiful women have 'boyish' bodies and flat chests and I assure you many men find them quite beautiful and many of them are not destined to live as hermits for fear of making others randomly, dramatically vomit at the pure sight of them. I've always thought gw needed more personalized characters, less cookie cutter she looks like her and such. Yeah, we can change the height, but thats about it. :P I was hoping for another width type scale when I first got the game but hey, if they want to make body styles based on class go for it, its better than nothing. Variety is the spice of life, yo. And with my mesmer, ele and soon to be ritualist I really dont need another one of those curvy, all be it beautiful, women in my character screen.

/endrant

Take care, God bless ;D

Ravex · Apr 26, 2006, 03:38 AM // 03:38

this assassin isnt the first guild wars char this has happend to. I thout the cover pictures of the warroir looked awsome all decked out in his gold shiny armor. but it turned out not to be so cool looking after all:/ i also hope thers some better armor then in the preview that was some pretty basic stuff..

ph0bolus · Apr 26, 2006, 03:27 PM // 15:27

none of the characters on the covers you can have..like the prophecies warrior helmet...you cant have it or aidens armour..and i think if you look through the manual you see a warrior holding an oversized longsword..the cover art is basically for looks

Martian · Apr 26, 2006, 03:55 PM // 15:55

Just wanted to thank the mods for clearing up the thread, it was getting pretty ugly in here

I still think that Assassins have exactly the right look to be what they are but ultimately we are not going to please everyone until we have adjustable body proportians beyond just hieght.

Darksun · Apr 27, 2006, 03:35 PM // 15:35

True dat.. The Assassins look like what they are supposed to look like. Wirey-strong, light, fast, stealthy! I think they are fine (I really don't like the porcupine armour tho)

The only female have a problem with is the Warrior. They should be much more muscular, smaller chest, thicker arms & legs...battle ready. Looks too much like a runway model. I mean she's hot, but she doesn't look like a WARRIOR. Those thin arms would never wield a Ram's Head Hammer..

I allways thought it would be cool if they would let you change your character's weight. Make em fatter/thinner along with taller. Little Thom's pot-belly makes him very unique!

Count to Potato · Apr 27, 2006, 03:39 PM // 15:39

Ritualist in game look way better

primal98 · Apr 27, 2006, 03:40 PM // 15:40

just play as the male assassin? I think he looks cooler neways.

OHNOES!1!! prim3 is pl4yin with a m4l3 char... teh gay teh gya!!

~prime

misthero · Apr 27, 2006, 03:47 PM // 15:47

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Originally Posted by Darksun

True dat.. The Assassins look like what they are supposed to look like. Wirey-strong, light, fast, stealthy! I think they are fine (I really don't like the porcupine armour tho)

The only female have a problem with is the Warrior. They should be much more muscular, smaller chest, thicker arms & legs...battle ready. Looks too much like a runway model. I mean she's hot, but she doesn't look like a WARRIOR. Those thin arms would never wield a Ram's Head Hammer..

I allways thought it would be cool if they would let you change your character's weight. Make em fatter/thinner along with taller. Little Thom's pot-belly makes him very unique!

Yep, but we all knows that GW character customization is not the best around there. I fear DEV not changed it befor and never will. We can get mor hairstiles and faces, but that's all.

LD50 · Apr 28, 2006, 12:05 PM // 12:05

I agree with the original post in that I'm disappointed that the in-game female assassin doesn't look like the art we've been seeing.

Still, I like the way both the (male and female) assassins look. My single complaint is that the female assassin should have a bit more bulk on her upper arms, they look almost smaller than her forearms. >_>

Actually, another complaint is the lack of good female assassin hair styles and colors. We can't even make her hair purple!

All in all, some people need to chill. So what if some guy would prefer it if the female assassin had bigger breasts and more curves? That's just what he likes in a woman, apparently. Personally, I'm an advocate of smaller breasts and less curves, and once again that's just personal taste.

I'm also sick and ****ing tired of people throwing in the "it's just pixels" bullshit argument. OK, we all know they're just pixels and aren't real women, get over yourselves. The high and mighty attitude that just screams "I'm better than all you because I've had girlfriends and I suspect none of you have."

Blech, to hell with that rant.

Anyway, back to the topic: I think it'd be great to have more character creation options (like the proportion editor), more hair styles, more faces, etc.

MysticPain · Apr 28, 2006, 12:18 PM // 12:18

I'm far too lazy to read all these posts, but I must say that I really don't see any problem with the female assassin. You can tell by her tummy that she's obviously very fit, and she seems about as slim as she would be in that body type.

Everyone likes bigger boobs (well, not everyone, but the majority), but come on, her stomach is fine.

Yukito Kunisaki · Apr 28, 2006, 03:56 PM // 15:56

I'll answer to the gigantic posts earlier in this thread regarding martial arts...

Speed = Power... You can't be light and hit fast.

When you hit fast, you hit hard. There's no avoiding this.

How do I prove this? I don't have to, Einstein did...

E=mc^2

energy = mass x acceleration.
anti-derivative?

power = mass x speed

I throw a bullet at you that weighs in at a few grams. It bounces off you.
I put the same bullet in a sniper rifle and fire it at mach 2, it will do a lot more than hit you...

what's this mean?

Your mass/weight/size isn't what's important. If you can train to hit faster than believably possible, that's when speed > all of the above.

Can one be faster than a bullet? Not sure, but that Bruce Lee kick video was quite impressive. [hard to tell, but he kicks twice within 2-3 frames of video footage I think. I used to kick like that in my earlier training days...

]

If I can drive my finger into your throat with 70 lbs. of force, I don't care who you are [unless you have an armored neck lol]

My karate teacher had a cool punching pad that measured weight/force when struck.

Quite scary really, his 'relaxed' backfist punch struck for 90lbs...

He said nobody should hold it if he's doing one for real...

I've fallen in love with the knife hand chop due to Dead or Alive influence with Ein [love DoA, especially the ladies, rawr... and I'm a married man so don't go all 'you need a g/f' on me, damn punks...]

My chop does about 80 lbs these days and I target the base of the neck or side usually...

Wtf does this have to do with the game? I'm hoping sins work that way, no beef, just raw speed and skill/technique...

But I must say, Visu is the 'ideal' sin. Hot body, motherly bosom... Strong child-bearing hips...

Um, you get the idea...

I'm for the group that says sins are too thin. Come on, if you're going to depict them like your cover art, add just a little more beef to them. Even tomboys are hotties when they've got workout muscle going for them. [nice rack is definitely a fringe benefit, that's fo sh0]

Spoony · Apr 29, 2006, 10:01 AM // 10:01

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Originally Posted by CKaz

yeah I wont touch the anorexic assassin

Weird, assasins still die first right after mesmers and monks.(or right with them)

Spoony · Apr 29, 2006, 10:11 AM // 10:11

But seriously, not to mention that assasins look much like bdsm fans and theyre too skinny.

People(mostly men) want assasins to look deadly and be *ekhem* really attractive at the same time. U got to understand them here, thats why the topic gone for the breasts, as u said it boxterduke.

Id say make the assasins not that thin and just smaller in height as a sacrafice. Less height - less weight. Less weight means u can move faster.
U can move faster - u can kill ur opponent faster. (it wouldn't have an influence on the game though)

Thallandor · Apr 29, 2006, 04:53 PM // 16:53

woah even after release you guys are still going at it. It not gonna change sadly so we will have to bare with it or roll yourself a ritualist and be a happier person

Eragon Dragonslayer · Apr 29, 2006, 05:29 PM // 17:29

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Originally Posted by Rebel Dragon

in this tread ive been thinking... anorexic is this:

while the assasin looks like a well trained female...
only i have to agree. the female assasin isnt a beaty.. and bigger hips and upperlegs. some more breast would help. and i dont want comments like: you are all litlle kiddies in puberty etc.. and yest im 14 year old! and i also have to say that if the assasin would like like a pornstar i also would play it...
just more fat and weight on her legs, hip and chest..

Ahh!!!!! Nightmares!!!! Ahh!!! Ill Never Sleep Again!! *takes out dagger* this is to horrifying to see good bye cold cruel world!!!! *stabs self and dies*

Thallandor · Apr 29, 2006, 06:10 PM // 18:10

^ some pple may take offence but that pic is what i would describe as the living undead....skin over bones scary and gives me the creeps.

Wyld Kard · Apr 29, 2006, 06:59 PM // 18:59

You people are morons, you complain about a characters looks and dont take into reality the basis for the looks an assassin is SPOST to look thin and lanky because she/he is built for speed/agility not tanking hits and smashing things with her/his forhead... the people who think the assassin is too skinny fail to take into consideration what the assassin is made for not for a fashion show but for fast moving insanly agile movements and attacks... it would be like saying the male warrior is too muscular make him more husky and average so weak minded low selfesteem people dont go off and sob in a corner eating a doughnut...

Sidra · Apr 29, 2006, 08:50 PM // 20:50

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Originally Posted by Ira Blinks

You comparing apples to oranges. You assume that someone bigger is stronger has less skill, based on another false assumption that speed = skill. Im sorry, but you judging of Hollywood trends... No matter how fast you are, you can't outrun punch or kick... forget sword.
We often get new people who come from asian martial arts with a smartass attitude of "oh look i can poke you in the eye!" (when grabbed or dragged into close fight), who just dont realize that simple pain reaction will make me break his neck instantly.
Dont get me wrong, my instructor does encourage use of dirty tricks like balls kicking etc., but the way you put it is just silly. If you going for the dirty trick you have to secure your position, you must be dominant, otherwise response will be so hard and fast you'll regret even thinking about it. If you think you can poke in the eye seasoned fighter and run off, that will be the last thing you did in your life. Which brings us back to original point: Fighter is someone who can deal _and_ take damage.

Now as for using a knife... Try to stab thru a ringmail for a change. Then put it on real person and do the same while he is kickin crap outta you.

As for ninja moves: again, you watch too much Hollywood crap. Real invisible move (stab?) can only come from a calm and relaxed person. Obfuscating clothing helps to. On the other hand speedy person with sharp movements will get everyone’s attention instantly, because as every non-predator animal humans have very good peripheral and motion vision.

Tight clothes are the worst thing you can have on you. It makes it very easy to grab you and direct damage

1: Ira, I find you hilarious. But that is besides the point.

2: Speed will not matter if I am fighting someone and jump>trip>sit on them before they can go anywhere. I happen to be "big" for my age (5'11" and 170 lbs.) and personally have never lost a fight to a fast person, just because they were fast. Karate also had no effect when I was binding their arms to their sides and just throwing them down or disabling them some other way, miawhatever. For instance, if you were to attack me with everthing you had (bare-handed) I don't think I'd let you get anywhere near my eyes before I got you. Big people can be quick too, it's all in how you are built. Please stop making erroneous comments on things that you seemingly have no experience in. I personally take offence at your seemingly indefinete conclusion that big = stupid = slow.

Miakoda · Apr 30, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41

That post will be deleted also^

Sidra · Apr 30, 2006, 03:25 AM // 03:25

Possibly, but at least you read it first :-D.